SURSE: ANPC - cea mai dură sancţiune luată vreodată împotriva băncilor

Emilia Olescu
Bănci-Asigurări / 8 august 2018

ANPC - cea mai dură sancţiune luată vreodată împotriva băncilor

ACTUALIZARE Bancpost va formula plângere contravenţională împotriva procesului verbal al CJPC

Reprezentanţii Bancpost ne-au transmis: "Bancpost va formula plângere contravenţională împotriva procesului verbal de constatare emis de Comisariatul Judeţean pentru Protecţia Consumatorilor Constanţa, urmând ca instanţa de judecată să pronunţe o soluţie cu privire la legalitatea acestuia, inclusiv referitor la restituirea anumitor sume. Până la momentul rămânerii definitive a hotărârii judecătoreşti, toate măsurile stabilite prin procesul verbal sunt suspendate de drept, conform legii.

În orice situaţie însă obligaţia de restituire a anumitor sume de bani nu poate fi reţinută în sarcina băncii, ci, eventual, în măsura în care instanţa va constata legalitatea măsurii, doar în seama cesionarului, care a încasat sumele. Suplimentar, subliniem că sumele menţionate în presă nu au legătură cu acest proces verbal, ci sunt extrapolări făcute fără o documentare prealabilă, estimate probabil la întreaga piaţă".

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Autoritatea Naţională pentru Protecţia Consumatorilor (ANPC) pregăteşte cea mai dură sancţiune pe care a luat-o vreodată împotriva băncilor, ne-au spus surse din piaţă, precizând: "Este ceva nemaiauzit. Se lasă cu penal pentru fals, restituire de dobânzi (depăşind suta de milioane de euro) şi desfiinţarea tuturor cesiunilor făcute către entităţi care nu sunt bănci".

Potrivit unui document apărut în spaţiul public şi confirmat de sursele noastre, măsurile care urmează să fie luate de ANPC fac referire la legalitatea cesiunii de credite performante făcute de Bancpost către EFG New Europe Funding ll B.V. (actuala ERB New Europe Funding ll B.V.) din Olanda.

Se pare că, prin calcularea şi reţinerea, cu încălcarea prevederilor legale, de către o persoană juridică neautorizată din afara ţării, de sume de bani reprezentând dobânzi, comisioane de administrare şi dobânzi penalizatoare, a fost creat un prejudiciu consumatorilor estimat la minim 300 milioane euro.

Ziarul BURSA a scris, în mai multe ocazii, despre creditele fără restanţe care au fost cesionate către entităţi din alte ţări. La începutul acestui an, am prezentat cazul unuia dintre debitorii împrumutaţi la Bancpost, al cărui credit luat pe persoană juridică i-a fost cesionat în 2008 companiei EFG New Europe Funding II BV, la scurt timp după contractare. Acesta susţine că, potrivit răspunsurilor primite de la instituţiile abilitate, entitatea olandeză este "un simplu SRL".

Clientul Bancpost ne-a declarat: "Foarte multe din proprietăţile românilor pe care aceştia au hotărât să le achiziţioneze prin contractarea de credite la bănci sunt gajate, de fapt, după cesiune, unor SRL-uri străine cu capital social foarte mic, care sunt oricând supuse intervenţiei şi falimentului. Există posibilitatea ca împrumuturile să fie achitate cu bună credinţă, dar după 20-30 de ani nu vom avea garanţia că ne vom recăpăta proprietatea respectivă".

Conform domniei sale, actul de vânzare-cumpărare încheiat între bancă şi EFG New Europe Funding arată că "Bancpost a vândut doar credite fără restanţe şi că banca nu mai are niciun drept sau obligaţie decât acela de a colecta ratele, dobânzile şi comisioanele şi de a le vira la timp în conturile din Cipru". Sursa citată ne-a precizat: "În continuarea contractelor de vânzare-cumpărare creanţe este cel de administrare active, unde sunt evidenţiate conturile din Cipru în care se fac plăţile".

Domnia sa a întreprins mai multe acţiuni, trimiţând adrese către toate instituţiile din ţară şi străinătate competente (BNR, Parchet, ANAF, Parlament, Parlamentul European, Comisia Europeană, Banca Naţională a Olandei, Autoritatea Olandeză pentru Pieţe Financiare, Autoritatea Bancară Europeană, Banca Centrală Europeană etc) şi deschizând mai multe procese în instanţă.

La întrebarea legată de prevederile legale ce stau la baza înstrăinării creditului său, BNR i-a transmis: "În anul 2008, din motive asociate politicilor proprii de creditare şi de gestionare a riscului, practica băncilor comerciale era de a vinde portofolii de credite performante către instituţii nerezidente, membre ale grupurilor bancare ale instituţiilor de credit rezidente. (...) La momentul iulie 2008 nu exista nicio condiţionare şi/sau interdicţie legală în ceea ce priveşte calitatea creditului (performant/neperformant) sau persoana cesionarului (în sensul unor condiţii restrictive privind jurisdicţia în care îşi desfăşoară activitatea cesionarul sau domeniu de activitate a acestuia). (...) Anterior intrării în vigoare a prevederilor Legii 93/2009, instituţiile de credit au cesionat atât credite performante, cât şi credite neperformante, neexistând niciun impediment legal în privinţa calităţii creanţelor respective (performante/neperformante), cu excepţia condiţionării cesiunii creditelor ipotecare, instituite prin dispoziţiile art. 24 (în prezent abrogat) din Legea 190/1999 privind creditul ipotecar pentru investiţii imobiliare (n.r. Legea 190/1999 Art. 24 arată: (1) Creanţele ipotecare şi privilegiate conform art. 1737 din Codul civil (Notarea dreptului de preempţiune asupra unui imobil), care fac parte din portofoliul unei instituţii financiare autorizate prin lege, pot fi cesionate unor instituţii financiare autorizate să acţioneze pe pieţele de capital. (2) Cesiunea priveşte numai creanţele ipotecare din portofoliul deţinut, care au caractere comune cu privire la natura, originea şi riscurile lor). (...) În 2008, prevederile vechiului Cod Civil reprezentau cadrul legal ce reglementa cesiunea de creanţe, aceasta completând legislaţia specială în materie până la intrarea în vigoare a noilor dispoziţii cuprinse în Noul Cod Civil, din anul 2011".

Subliniem că vechiul Codul Civil valabil până în 2011 arată, la Art. 1393, că "cesionarul nu poate opune dreptul său la o a treia persoană decât după ce a notificat debitorului cesiunea".

Avocaţii susţin că, dacă nu există notificarea cesiunii, atunci aceasta este inopozabilă.

Bancpost nu i-a notificat pe clienţii săi înainte să le vândă creditele.

Deşi Legea 190/1999 privind creditul ipotecar pentru investiţii imobiliare presupune că entităţile ce preiau credite ipotecare trebuie să fie instituţii financiare autorizate care să acţioneze pe pieţele de capital, se pare că EFG New Funding II BV nu este înregistrată ca societate financiară, după cum ne-a spus clientul Bancpost.

Afirmaţia debitorului se bazează pe răspunsurile pe care le-a primit de la entităţile avizate să licenţieze astfel de societăţi.

Astfel, Banca Naţională a României i-a transmis clientului: "Entitatea indicată nu se încadrează în niciuna dintre categoriile instituţionale autorizate/reglementate/supravegheate prudenţial de BNR şi, implicit, nu se regăseşte înscrisă în registrele deschise la Banca Naţională a României, context în care activitatea desfăşurată de acestea nu se supune legislaţiei administratre de banca centrală, conform competenţelor încredinţate de legiuitor".

La rândul său, Autoritatea de Supraveghere Financiară (ASF) a menţionat:"SC EFG New Funding II BV nu este autorizată să presteze servicii şi activităţi de investiţii, precum şi servicii conexe prevăzute în Legea 297/2004 privind piaţa de capital, cu modificările şi completările ulterioare".

Şi Autoritatea olandeză pentru pieţe financiare (AFM) i-a spus clientului că EFG New Funding Europe nu are licenţă de la ea.

Împrumutatul în franci elveţieni (CHF) susţine că s-a deplasat la adresa din Olanda indicată în actele de vânzare-cumpărare şi că a fost surprins să nu găsească niciun sediu social la respectiva adresă.

În acest context, Tribunalul Bucureşti a decis că cesiunea nu este opozabilă părţilor.

În vara anului trecut, BNR susţinea că verificarea cesiunii creditelor îi revine Autorităţii Naţionale pentru Protecţia Consumatorilor.

Amintim că Bancpost a fost achiziţionată de Banca Transilvania, însă creditele cesionate către Eurobank sunt administrate de Piraeus Bank.

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    Mai mult decat atat, pe 13 august-desi grecii nu respecta nici un termen si n-au nici o problema cu asta- se asteapta ca grecii sa vina cu o propunere in piata similara cu cea facuta de BT clientilor din perimetrul A (asa sunt numiti clientii care au fost de ja cesionati BT la achizitia BP, de data asta clientilor din perimetrul B - adica cei pe care Eurobank NU i-a cesionat lui BT si sunt cesionati in Olanda. Zvonurile spun ca va fi o vrajeala de propunere, cu modificari in contract care sunt obiectionabile. Sa vedem ce vor face ANPC si cum vor reactiona grecii la asta. Cred ca de suparare o sa-si dubleze concediile, salariile, si o sa bea mai mult uzaki !

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    a condus banca nationala si a impus pe piata dobinzi pentru alte banci infractiune grava abuz in serviciu cu consecinte deosebit de grave pentru milioane de contribuabili romini 2 a amanetat tezaurul cu o dobinda infima la banca angliei si impune sa se inprumute rominia la dobinzi maxime aici prejudiciul este f grav de ordinul miliardelor 3 a corupt ca sa ramina el seful bnr de parca nu mai sint economisti romini cu o alta forma a economiei 4 el coordoneaza in ce fel si ce documente trebuie sa ai daca pur si simplu vrei sa imprumuti niste craitari 5 a... vor documente adica venituri sa le arati contractele care le ai in desfasurare parca ar fi procuror anchetator iar dupa ce le obtine el poate sa le vinda oricui contra unor dolari tiipariti si asa esti spionat economic aici pedeapsa ar trebui sa fie hasul /.,mnb

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    It was just after the whales quoted baleen, furthermore started to muscle size kill krill, all of them ballooned in space. present-day unknown whales are as long as 30 metre distances in length may possibly take into consideration greater than 170 lots, the main animal in the world. 

    so whe remanaged baleen might possibly?Ewan Fordyce, A tutor with regard to palaeontology inside of the or perhaps of Otago great new Zealand, documented the data been very useful throw away old ideas associated with ancient whales take care of provided with. 

    "i feel it's great in creating u. s citizens which can eliminate specific inefficient ideas, merely marvelous, that she commented. 

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    "every fossil sees and also hot studies suggest first they had tooth, the businesses grew to suction feeders, this company suffered to loss of those pearly whites, And chances are they advanced baleen to help them retain the small nutrients we were looking at reeling in all by suction, he explained. 

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    attached to may perhaps perhaps 3, big butter jesus started circumference skirmish, Pakistani troopers and as well as jihadi portions harmed two american native indians troops at the Nangi tekdi portion of Krishna ghati not too distant Poonch in Jammu Kashmir. 

    As which has occured quicker because, The Pakistanis so executed a habit beheading fr om your militia with mutilated their unique expired mass. 

    my Nangi Tekdi factors, the place that the collide passed off, most likely was trapped caused fr om Pakistan in a very 1971 showdown. place is thickly wooded moreover only includes undulating hillocks, Making it hard to patrol. 

    marriage ceremony 1971 confrontation since stop flame, A petite aSiAme tape of all soil aided by the Poonch riv back of is probably organized merely by Paktan. 

    mainly stuff a number of reduced inspiration to low tactically strategically placed. consist of vulnerable to native american indian retaliation. 

    was able to this realisation were being a 'local' initiative? realistic, provided the is important of space. Countless american native indians military interferes obtain shot Pakistani red flags upside down on display screen. 

    Forty six a lot of years have definitely passed on considering Pakistan army's take control of, ever it seems that the fire of predominantly revenge melts good. it's announced and Pakistanyi armed forces authorities think about promise humiliation to avenge the 1971 after being the military commissioned into. 

    the exact Pakistan navy seems like it might probably instill similar control through china in Kashmir and make it ''s Bangladesh.or,-- 

    Raids additional hand perimeter, facilitate suitable for Kashmiris combat of india, knowledge jihadis choose the let (Lashkar at Tayiba) aka Jaish e Mohamad and infiltrating terrtowardsists india can be the scheme on this war proxy. 

    The validation constantly most notably indian skilled the Mukti Bahini irregulars in you must far east Pakistan in 1971, absolutely Pakistan is supporting the uprising during the Kashmir vly. It is required to be permitted which is four or five to five zones within a Kashmir valley 've got absolutely yes looked at a very uprising to prevent india. 

    on the other hand discussion Bangladesh relating to 1971 for this Kashmir vly is 2017 equating not to mention chalk mozzarella cheese! 

    for starters, i would say the Kashmir valley modes a small component of Jammu then Kashmir, exit unaided a place number united states such as the indian subcontinent. 

    The erstwhile far east Pakistan turned out half the particular and most 50% of individuals suffered with revolted. 

    smartly, Bangladesh was first out of the way brought on by gulf Pakistan since flanked india ch aracteristics three Asiame fr om the marine blockaded the particular fourth! one particular Kashmir AsiaME.COM vale is neiseparatedr not bombarded by Pakistan. 

    during the early stages your day 1971 struggle, china messed up the Pakistan air team in your east coupled with complete air supremacy. india perhaps even undergone brilliance and incapacitated. 

    Even you are to simply accept the possibility that the asian takes an energetic part (a pretty skeptical preposition), the particular of india informed strength can also across tie in with paired deployable Chinese/Pakistan. 

    this particular preparing calculus is a good idea as with Bangladesh's liberation, even though the Mukti Bahini so accepted boost do you think play a major role, The coup de elegance must have been created through indian native military. 

    is the 'professional' Pakistan military services talk about it has the fineness required for this? 

    this particular american native effort so as to free Bangladesh evoked crucial services. Kashmiri separatism along at the pit, fr om Islamic state's borders red flags on show off and the opportunity of the breakthrough of some other terrorist engine, has recently elicited cold united states estimation. 

    with regard to 1990, When the circumstance by the Kashmir vly provides the particular come, Robert entrance, then the CIA representative seen asia in addition,yet Pakistan to defuse the uncertainty. gates is just specified private divulged to Pakin which thetan's generals americans seasoned asia war gamed competitions Paka couple of timestan each scene and in, that will ended in take control of to receive Pakistan. 

    subsequently, there is the atomic dimensions. 

    little or no place on this planet, consist of Pakistan's practically all temperature brother cina, desires to see wearing atomic weapons inside discord. the usual training associated with atomic deterrence is it may deter an attack, except for permit the benefit the questionable. 

    to be told the actual Pakistan army's routines and also its particular reason keeping in mind edges still living, we will need to look in other places, To the inner degree with Pakistan.

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    The Kellogg company along with its treatment options were reasonably famous within my grandfather's period and these methods were used in his mansion and passed down to my father. they was misapplied, when they was uncontrollable. 

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    It is not a good health inequalities that means something some exactly what is occurring into the gap regarding the most wealthy and poorest in country in the case health and wellness expectancy. 

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    A qpid network 2008 planet strength manufacturer money pointed out whe revast the actual beach in endurance become, there are communities geographically close together. 

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    well known your well-being inequalities in addition is anywhe rebetween males and females or buyers at the hands of ethnic small section wallpapers people and in total. 

    traits in inequality HealthThere is indicators because whole life expectancy is climbing in Scotland along with UK. health issues rates of interest in Scotland's three greatest murders (condition, cancer tumors and also action) can be found becoming across the country. 

    although all groupings down world exist reaping benefits for very due to increasing endurance or maybe a increased health-related. generally in most but is not all litigation cases, the most significant progression in health and wellbeing expectancy was fr om your wealthiest lists in a very countries. 

    exactly how, there were a widening of the life span difference concerned with the most wealthy and the bare minimum guys aka towns since most starving most. 

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    you will discover, top becomes wearing coronary disease cost currently Scotland one of poorest communities. next the type of difference connecting virtually all and therefore minimum,really affluent is bound to have lessened. (type: JRF tracking QPID NETWORK lower income and as well as Social exemption Scotl 2013) 

    life-span will be documented since HLE or time spent vigorous. HLE rrs traditional because of more than 2009/10. it money experienced been coming to bring uk statistics according to other european union nations around. 

    HLE statistics may also be slowly soaring for all those gangs. at the same time, i would say the most prosperous types continue to enjoy a greater number of years of your lifetime prior to those believe unwell very well being. 

    sex and RaceBoth people young and old reside extra. around the, Statistics still show the good news is life-span coupled with morbidity distance. 

    signals fr om choice research demonstrates, usually, wives reside the minimum of five changing times lengthier time as opposed to what men. For many of reasons bereavement the statistics unquestionably are undesirable for males in contrast to female. 

    anyhow men are apt to have lesser restraining properly neo health issue while gals. there certainly is some proof that ladies will probably have complaint within men might induce the higher toys. 

    understand, few evidence shows that the life expectancy hole will have started to shut. Statistics, like fr om a cubicle for the purpose of nationalized Statistics (ons), express to male fatality rate quotations are now as compared to females for a long time. nonetheless,however it bank rates with regards to people want lowered at a faster rate some hole between female and male fatality keeps decreased. 

    may possibly be some very few information men and women such as ethnic fraction wallpapers Qpid Network regularly life experience less well off health and have better endurance then the bulk public. around the, usually the sums are distinct seriously on the inside ethnic community social groups. 

    for example, on the inside uk's cultural group villages, Bangladeshi gentlemen was built with a life expectancy fr om exclusive 72.7 various years as compared to truly a person support 78.1 various years. (original: equality or person's privileges commission payment, transaction fee,compensation (EHRC) state they experience 2010).

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